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    Default Need to choose an approach to improve understandability of TV voice.

    I have the following devices:

    Comcast X1 Box: PACE PXD01ANI
    TV: Sony Brava KDL 40v4100
    Home Theater: Sony 5.1ch BDVE3100 (under consideration)
    Hearing aids: Resound Verso 9

    I have medium hearing loss and wear hearing aids. I have a problem hearing the voices on some TV shows. Cable news is OK, but some movies are terrible for understanding voice. I have read that I would be able to hear and understand voices much better if I played the audio through a 5ch home theater system.

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    I have considered a Sony 5.1ch BDVE3100 home theater. Then someone told me about "TV Ears".

    http://hearingaidbuyertoday.com/2014...s-watching-tv/

    I also learned there are wireless digital headphones made by Sennheiser. I am a novice and have no basis for choosing pros/cons between these approaches, so I post here to see if if anyone has experience with this and if my approach can be expected to work. And if there are any other best practices that a novice should be aware of.
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    The standard advice from the forum seems to be to "stream" television directly to your hearing aids, usually using bluetooth. I'm not familiar with your hearing aid, but usually this requires a transmitter that connects up to your television and a pendant that you wear around your neck that receives the signal and then sends it to your hearing aids. Most people seem to like them but they aren't cheap. Somebody advocates for a FM system by Williams that is more costly and sounds really nice. I personally use TV ears and they definitely work for me. They're relative inexpensive, but the downside is that you can't wear your hearing aids with them. TV ears don't seem very popular on this forum. Another option that doesn't seem very popular is "looping" your TV room and using your hearing aid's telecoil (if it has one) I'm seriously considering this approach. Probably the contrarian in me. It all depends on what you want. If you want something easy, and don't mind having your hearing aids off, I'm guessing TV ears would provide a solution to being able to hear the TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDB View Post
    Another option that doesn't seem very popular is "looping" your TV room and using your hearing aid's telecoil (if it has one) I'm seriously considering this approach. Probably the contrarian in me. It all depends on what you want. If you want something easy, and don't mind having your hearing aids off, I'm guessing TV ears would provide a solution to being able to hear the TV.
    Let us know your experience if you should do this. I'm using the Resound TV Streamer and not completely satisfied with the ability to hear conversations. I may try a loop myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tesla513 View Post
    Let us know your experience if you should do this. I'm using the Resound TV Streamer and not completely satisfied with the ability to hear conversations. I may try a loop myself.
    If you're already using the TV Streamer and are still not satisfied with it, I'm not sure how the loop will help make it better because you're already getting the sound direct to your HAs just the same with the streamer as you will with the loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tesla513 View Post
    Let us know your experience if you should do this. I'm using the Resound TV Streamer and not completely satisfied with the ability to hear conversations. I may try a loop myself.
    I have purchased the Sony 5.1ch BDVE3100 home theater and connected it to the TV. But I will have to get support on the settings, as there are three remotes that interact with one another and hundreds of settings on the TV and the home theater. I will post back when I get it going - which will be in about a week.
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    Stan, I assume the Home Theater uses the Toslink Optics. You can buy a splitter to allow you to connect to the Home Theater and to the streamer. I am using this one successfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenP View Post
    Stan, I assume the Home Theater uses the Toslink Optics. You can buy a splitter to allow you to connect to the Home Theater and to the streamer. I am using this one successfully.
    I agree with KenP that direct streaming from the TV to a streamer to your HAs is probably the best approach for better speech understanding. But it looks like the OP had already decided to buy a home theater system instead of opting to buy a streamer, so I'm assuming that the OP doesn't have a streamer to begin with.

    If the content being watched is Dolby or DTS 5.1 compatible, then usually the voices are concentrated on the front center channel for the most part. So that should help isolating the voices for better clarity hopefully. But if still a challenge even with this setup, there's always an option to increase the volume balance to make the center channel louder than the other channels.

    Sometimes, certain movies have really bad voices in situations because they whisper a lot, or simply due to bad mix downs or they have other sounds going on beside speech. I find that turning on subtitle or closed caption is simply the best option in those situations.
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    I'm trying to find a solution for my mom, so I am interested in this.

    The hearing aids made it easy to hear the TV. But she doesn't want to wear hearing aids.

    The over the ear headphones with base station (I guess RF) worked, but the headphones hurt her ears.

    The bluetooth earbuds have a delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjccommish View Post
    I'm trying to find a solution for my mom, so I am interested in this.

    The hearing aids made it easy to hear the TV. But she doesn't want to wear hearing aids.

    The over the ear headphones with base station (I guess RF) worked, but the headphones hurt her ears.

    The bluetooth earbuds have a delay.
    Many modern smart TV have audio delay setting to sync up between the video and audio.

    You can have her try the TV Ears. Costco sell them for easy return. So does Amazon.
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    5.1's audio is not great for speech understanding. Try the stereo setting. Speech is mostly in the central channel. Stereo adds two effects channels while 4.1 overburdens speech with 4. I have the Hitachi sound bar and it does almost as well as streaming. It has a clear speech option that further limits effects. Many audio mixers favor effect over sounds these days.
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