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    There's really to know until you try some out. An advantage of getting hearing aids "early" vs "late" is that you preserve the brain's ability to make sense of sounds. People here could also probably give you feedback based on your audiogram. My apologies if you posted it and I missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
    This is definitely a fear and I don't want to pay $$$ for that.

    I'm also struggling with the "is my hearing loss bad enough to warrant hearing aids right now?" question. I've seen this (and done it) problem with people who need joint replacements and go for a long time in pain because they don't think their problem is bad enough. It's hard to tell when the right time for such things are. At least in that scenario you have pain levels as a gauge. With this, it's just that I need to ask people to repeat themselves on occasion.
    You haven't posted your audiogram results here to share so it's hard to say whether you should get HAs yet or not. But if your audi is already recommending HAs then I presume that this is already an answered question, assuming that your audi is not just trying to push HAs on you. But if you share your audiograms here then other folks can chime in to help you with that question.

    You can always go the Costco route just to try out a pair to help you determine whether you think you need it or not. Costco has a 180 days trial period so that should be liberal enough for you to try them out for a couple of months to get accustomed to them, then take them off for a month or two to see if you'd miss them or not. In the end, if you prefer to settle on a brand being pushed by your insurance company, or on a brand from an independent dispenser that Costco doesn't carry, you can always return your trial pair to Costco and go with the others. Don't be afraid of not being comfortable with "taking advantage" of Costco. You can think of it as they're willing to do this to get the first shot at winning your business. So they're not really being taken advantage of by you. They're offering you an easy no-brainer choice for a chance to win your business at their own risk that they're willing to take.

    So just try it out with Costco to settle your question on whether you need HAs or not, then worry about which HA to buy from whom later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
    This is definitely a fear and I don't want to pay $$$ for that.

    I'm also struggling with the "is my hearing loss bad enough to warrant hearing aids right now?" question. I've seen this (and done it) problem with people who need joint replacements and go for a long time in pain because they don't think their problem is bad enough. It's hard to tell when the right time for such things are. At least in that scenario you have pain levels as a gauge. With this, it's just that I need to ask people to repeat themselves on occasion.
    When first told I could benefit from hearing aids I too worried that maybe the audiology company was just trying to part me from $Au10,000. I went into sticker shock and when that wore off I saw an ENT surgeon who suggested I should try HAs. I switched to his audiology group which offered a free trial(no money up front). Even with the aids set to about 85% of my target prescription the difference was very clear and in 2 weeks I knew I would benefit from HAs. The new audiologist was not being paid a commission for sales so I felt I was getting more objective advice. The trial aids were top of the range so at the audiologists suggestion I also tried the mid-range aids. I preferred the first pair because I found the more sudden changes from one program to another and changes in noise reduction levels to be off putting. I tend to experience some complex and at times noisy environments so I decided on the top of the range. I tried a different brand for the Bluetooth connectivity and app controls but for various reasons they were not the ones I settled on. The process took a long time and in the end I had to compromise on a feature I wanted to achieve comfort and quality hearing. Finding an audiologist you trust to help you through that process is the most important step. Sometimes the road is smooth but sometimes it takes quite a few turns and trusting the navigator is important.

    Ask about whether your hearing care professional is paid a commission on HA sales. As mentioned by other posters, Costco offers high end aids for a much lower price so you could also try there(no commissions). Ask also about any free trials or trial conditions. Many places require you to purchase and refund you to trial a set of aids. I Would not have felt comfortable with that for my first trial.

    You said that your hearing is worse in the mid frequencies. Without seeing an audiogram it sounds like it is possible you might have a cookie bite loss. Posters in the past have stated that that type of loss could be a bit more difficult to fit. Be aware that even the professionals on the forum cannot make specific suggestions for you without seeing your audiogram results. Overall the most important component is the hearing care professional you choose.
    Carol

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    Okay, so I understand it's a bit of a trial and error process. Thank you guys, hearing your experiences with getting fitted is very helpful. I think this is my audiogram that I had done in June (if I transcribed the numbers correctly):

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    This audiogram was done by one audio last June, and independent one who doesn't seem to work with any ENT office. I took it to an ENT in December to ask his opinion and he had me get an MRI to check for physical deformities/tumors/whatnot in my left inner ear that might account for the significant difference between the two ears. That came out clear (and fascinating!) so I then saw the audio who worked with his office. It's this last audio who is recommending the OTN and such. I can go back to her and ask about commissions and trials. She also recommended getting another hearing test to check if I'm getting worse since I haven't really been tested since childhood before this. (I'm mid-50's now, for a frame of reference.)

    One more thing to note is that 1.5 years ago I had a head cold that quickly escalated into bilateral severe ear infections to the point that I went deaf in both ears. That was terrifying, but over weeks and months my hearing has come back. I suspect it's possible that the worse left ear is still lingering results of that, since the infection and deafness was worse in that ear. (My eardrums did not rupture bit it came very close, especially in the left ear.)

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    If you trust your audiologist, and that person recommends aids, then it's probably wise to start the process now. Unlike joint surgery, YOU can choose when to swap out old aids for newer ones with more features - with no pain of downtime or risk of things related to joint replacements.

    You mentioned that you only really have trouble with all the folks who "mumble" - but what if you're already missing conversation and questions directed at you that you aren't even aware of? I say that speaking from experience, cuz I also had your loss profile waaaaaay long time ago (maybe in my teens or 20s).

    I think it's better to start on a good hearing program sooner rather than later, cuz you'll gain confidence being able to hear better AND get used to the aids, allowing you to articulate what you want them to do to your audiologist.

    To me, a partnership with a trustworthy, service-oriented audiologist can last a lifetime! I've found a real gem with the guy I've seen the past 10 years. Look at your hearing health as ongoing, and having a trained specialist know your issues and goals - plus go the extra mile for you when needed! - can make a huge difference. Good luck in finding the right aids for your budget & lifestyle. Let us know how it works out for you.


    Quote Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
    This is definitely a fear and I don't want to pay $$$ for that.

    I'm also struggling with the "is my hearing loss bad enough to warrant hearing aids right now?" question. I've seen this (and done it) problem with people who need joint replacements and go for a long time in pain because they don't think their problem is bad enough. It's hard to tell when the right time for such things are. At least in that scenario you have pain levels as a gauge. With this, it's just that I need to ask people to repeat themselves on occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
    I think this is my audiogram that I had done in June (if I transcribed the numbers correctly):

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    I think this level of loss, especially on the left ear, can benefit from wearing HA. And if you decide on wearing HA on the left ear, it's only logical to wear HA on the right ear as well to balance it out, since you do have some loss on the right ear as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    I think this level of loss, especially on the left ear, can benefit from wearing HA. And if you decide on wearing HA on the left ear, it's only logical to wear HA on the right ear as well to balance it out, since you do have some loss on the right ear as well.
    Best reason to get 2 aids would be to take advantage of higher end features where the aids communicate with each other - e.g. Directional features. If the poster gets one aid then it does not need to be high end. A lower level of aid could be tried. But if hearing in the right is getting worse then a matching pair would be good.
    Carol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psocoptera View Post
    Best reason to get 2 aids would be to take advantage of higher end features where the aids communicate with each other - e.g. Directional features. If the poster gets one aid then it does not need to be high end. A lower level of aid could be tried. But if hearing in the right is getting worse then a matching pair would be good.
    Also to take advantage of the binaural features in the brain itself. ;D

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    So I went back to the audiologist for another test and to order hearing aids. My hearing is stable from the last time it was tested, which was good. But I learned something new that you guys didn't tell me about. (Although I would likely have found it with a more thorough perusal of this forum.) Hearing aid batteries only last a few days, and you have to replace them, not recharge them?! That's mind blowing to me, in this day and age of tiny batteries in Apple Watches and other tiny devices that are also rechargeable. Sheesh! Anyway she told me that Starkey is coming out with a rechargeable model soon, so I have my HA request going through approval with my insurance company (which, as it turns out, actually does have fair coverage!) and will get the rechargeable ones when they come out.

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    Phonak and Signia also have models with built in rechargeable batteries. There are also other possibilities but they seem less satisfactory.Regular hearing aid batteries can be obtained quite inexpensively. I'd make sure you are satisfied with the way the hearing aids help you hear rather than concentrating too much on rechargability.

    Quote Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
    So I went back to the audiologist for another test and to order hearing aids. My hearing is stable from the last time it was tested, which was good. But I learned something new that you guys didn't tell me about. (Although I would likely have found it with a more thorough perusal of this forum.) Hearing aid batteries only last a few days, and you have to replace them, not recharge them?! That's mind blowing to me, in this day and age of tiny batteries in Apple Watches and other tiny devices that are also rechargeable. Sheesh! Anyway she told me that Starkey is coming out with a rechargeable model soon, so I have my HA request going through approval with my insurance company (which, as it turns out, actually does have fair coverage!) and will get the rechargeable ones when they come out.
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