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    So last night my RIC broke. Started cutting in and out and was sensitive to wire movement, then stopped working altogether. I'm assuming this is a broken wire (Widex Beyond), going in this afternoon to have it fixed. My question is - what is your experience with RIC devices? This is my first, and I suspected that wire would be a weak spot, but I did expect it to last longer than a month...... I don't see how it can not be a weak point - I have a full custom mold, you pretty much have to put pressure on that wire in one fashion or another when putting the mold in your ear.
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    Is the wire embedded into the custom mold? Or does it plug into the mold? If the earlier, does that mean that you'll have to replace the custom mold and the receiver inside, too? That would be a hassle, and they should design it to plug into the mold instead, so there'd be 2 connection points, one to the HA and one to the receiver inside the mold.
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    The P1 receiver clicks into some catches in the custom mold. It's field serviceable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    Is the wire embedded into the custom mold? Or does it plug into the mold? If the earlier, does that mean that you'll have to replace the custom mold and the receiver inside, too? That would be a hassle, and they should design it to plug into the mold instead, so there'd be 2 connection points, one to the HA and one to the receiver inside the mold.
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    I see. You mean that the wire goes straight into the P1 receiver but the receiver is removable from the custom mold? So the receiver will have to be replaced along with the wire because it's one-piece. But at least the custom mold doesn't have to be redone.

    I was curious before what happens if the receiver goes bad in case of custom molds, now I know. Thanks.
    HA wearer since the 1990's > Rexton Insite+ CIC (2011-2016) > Oticon OPN RITE (2016)

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    You are correct. Still wondering about the robustness of the RIC wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    I see. You mean that the wire goes straight into the P1 receiver but the receiver is removable from the custom mold? So the receiver will have to be replaced along with the wire because it's one-piece. But at least the custom mold doesn't have to be redone.

    I was curious before what happens if the receiver goes bad in case of custom molds, now I know. Thanks.
    Last edited by JeffBowser; 02-10-2017 at 12:28 PM.
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    I found them to be pretty reliable. I just jam everything into my ears each morning. I haven't really worried about reliability with my KS6s. The fitter did replace one for another reason. It had seemed to be working OK when that happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBowser View Post
    You are correct. Still wondering about the robustness of the RIC wires.

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    Thanks for sharing that picture. Is there a cover plate for it that you took off? Or is it just exposed like that?

    Also, it's interesting to see the the wiring is exposed like that because the plastic tube ends a little short. The wire that goes into my receiver has a plastic mold that wraps/seals tightly around the receiver on one end and the wire insulator in the other end, to make sure that you can't kink the entry point where the wire goes into the receiver, which can be a weak point if you repeatedly push on that point every time your push the receiver into the canal.
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    It stays open like that. The plastic tube doesn't end short, in that picture, that's where it broke. There is also a bit of optical illusion there between the light and the dark. When it is unbroken, the tube goes all the way into the receiver.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    Thanks for sharing that picture. Is there a cover plate for it that you took off? Or is it just exposed like that?

    Also, it's interesting to see the the wiring is exposed like that because the plastic tube ends a little short. The wire that goes into my receiver has a plastic mold that wraps/seals tightly around the receiver on one end and the wire insulator in the other end, to make sure that you can't kink the entry point where the wire goes into the receiver, which can be a weak point if you repeatedly push on that point every time your push the receiver into the canal.
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    R: no hearing

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffBowser View Post
    You are correct. Still wondering about the robustness of the RIC wires.
    Mine are Phonak RIC and the receivers are 19 months old. I suspect they will need changing at my next annual hearing test in a few months as the flexible seal where wire meets receiver is starting to come off slightly on one side. Usual expected life of these is about 18 months and since mine is squashed by a stethescope regularly, it has lasted better than expected. No change to sound quality as yet.
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    Good info, thanks. I'm in the habit of pushing CIC's back deeper into my ear all day long. I'll have to break myself of that habit. Perhaps being needlessly re-seated dozens of times a day is part of the issue.
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