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    Quote Originally Posted by KenP View Post
    The average user is a clinic customer where the audi tells them what is "best" and it either works or they pay the 10% restocking fee and abandon hearing aids for the time being. At a later point, they do it again.
    Wow, I didn't know about this 10% restocking fee. I always assumed that even clinic customers would enjoy a free trial period just the same. I can understand if custom molds wouldn't be refundable, though.
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    BTW, they recover all that rubber when they grind off the old blacktop and roll it out the other end as new blacktop. I think the county, state or feds would own it.

    If you go private (not Costco) be sure you understand their trials usually 30-45 days. Whether or not there is a restocking fee. Be clear what they would expect if you lost or damaged the aids. Don't buy 2 hours away to save a few $$$ then come on here and bitch about how far you have to drive for adjustments or repairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddy View Post
    So how many aids does the average customer actually try? Is trialing two or three aids an accepted and useful process?

    I'm just beginning this venture, but from what I am hearing and from other experiences, I think finding the ideal aid by trialing will be very difficult. I am keen to hear your dissenting opinion, but I'm thinking the first one I try will sound weird, but after 30 days will sound pretty good, and after that the die has been cast and that first one will be the reference. Then all other aids will either sound about the same or worse.

    That's what I'm expecting. But I also know from experience that reality can be a big surprise and quite different from what one imagined. All will be revealed soon.
    Usually 1-2, 3 would be the exception rather the rule. My personal point of view is that you can make most hearing aids sound pretty much as you need to through programming. The real reason to chop and change would be to move up to a feature set or particular niche need. Sometimes sheer physical fit is better with different receivers etc.

    And if anyone wants to offer me sensible money for a pair of stock Opn 1 I have sitting around, let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Um bongo View Post
    ... My personal point of view is that you can make most hearing aids sound pretty much as you need to through programming...
    That's also what I would have guessed.

    I mean, there has to be some logic to it. What are the variables? (talking sound quality only for now)... frequency profile, loudness, fidelity maybe, and the shape of the ear. Is there more that affects sound quality? The shape of the ear innards is probably the most obscure, but surely there is something known about volume and canal length and how that affects hearing and aids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Um bongo View Post
    Usually 1-2, 3 would be the exception rather the rule. My personal point of view is that you can make most hearing aids sound pretty much as you need to through programming. The real reason to chop and change would be to move up to a feature set or particular niche need. Sometimes sheer physical fit is better with different receivers etc.

    And if anyone wants to offer me sensible money for a pair of stock Opn 1 I have sitting around, let me know.
    I've worn Widex, Resound, Phonak, and now the KS7 (Rexton) aids. I tried the Cala 8 at Costco, and could not keep the domes from backing out. Even tried custom molds, and had issues with them staying in. While I slightly preferred the sound quality of the Cala 8, the KS7s stay in my ears with the closed dome, don't have feedback issues, and with the TV and Music programs offer a couple of features that the Cala 8 didn't. I would have loved to stay with Resound aids, but overall the KS7s are working better for me.
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    I've been a Siemens/Signia fan boy for years.. I've tried about every premium aid out there. IMHO the Phonak have an industrial sound. Once you get accustomed to the Siemens/Signia sound all the other will sound 'hard' for lack of a better description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDB View Post
    We certainly have a variety of opinions of the forums--some expressed more strongly than others. I guess I could be considered a KS7 fanboy, but it's measured. I suggest them because they are an exceptional value-- at leat $800 USD less than other similar Costco hearing aids. However, if iPhone streaming were important to a user, I would suggest the Resound Linx2 and if somebody had a striking high frequency loss, the Phonak Brio 2s might be worth considering because their Sound Recover program seems to be well thought of. If music is important, all bets are off. The Bernafons have a good reputation, but music appreciation is so individualized that I think finding a hearing aid that makes a music afficianado happy might require a lot of trial and error, or they might be decide a good set of headphones is better than hearing aids for listening to music.
    MDB, Interesting that you mention the Brio 2 Sound Recover program. Even with my severe HF loss my Costco specialist turned that feature off because she said too often it makes things worse. I believe that is the program that moves HF to lower frequency. I am now 3 months into my HA's and I find that I don't wear them as much as I did in the beginning. I am retired and home most of the time so I don't need them. I use wireless headphones to watch TV. I am going to try out the KS7's in a month or so. My Costo HIS is 100% the Brio 2's are the best for me because they switch programs automatically, actually I wouldn't mind having the ability to manually change programs. Wonder what brands/models Costco will release this fall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDB View Post
    We certainly have a variety of opinions of the forums--some expressed more strongly than others. I guess I could be considered a KS7 fanboy, but it's measured. I suggest them because they are an exceptional value-- at leat $800 USD less than other similar Costco hearing aids. However, if iPhone streaming were important to a user, I would suggest the Resound Linx2 and if somebody had a striking high frequency loss, the Phonak Brio 2s might be worth considering because their Sound Recover program seems to be well thought of. If music is important, all bets are off. The Bernafons have a good reputation, but music appreciation is so individualized that I think finding a hearing aid that makes a music afficianado happy might require a lot of trial and error, or they might be decide a good set of headphones is better than hearing aids for listening to music.
    MDB, Interesting that you mention the Brio 2 Sound Recover program. Even with my severe HF loss my Costco specialist turned that feature off because she said too often it makes things worse. I believe that is the program that moves HF to lower frequency. I am now 3 months into my HA's and I find that I don't wear them as much as I did in the beginning. I am retired and home most of the time so I don't need them. I use wireless headphones to watch TV. I am going to try out the KS7's in a month or so. My Costo HIS is 100% the Brio 2's are the best for me because they switch programs automatically, actually I wouldn't mind having the ability to manually change programs. Wonder what brands/models Costco will release this fall?
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    As far as I know, the KS7s switch programs just as automatically as the Brio 2s. Interesting though, my Mom's audiologist stressed how automatic the Phonaks were. Are they any more automatic than any other "destination based' hearing aid? I'm pretty sure the Signia Primax, Rexton RICs are "destination based" from how I understand the term. My take is that you would not be a good candidate for the Sound Recover program because your high frequency loss isn't really much worse than your mid frequency loss. You really don't have any place to shift the highs to. I think Sound Recover and other Frequency Shifting/Compression/Transposition programs work best with people with profound high frequency losses coupled with mild losses in the mid frequencies. I think my audiogram makes me a near ideal candidate in that my 6k and 8k loss are essentially unaidable with the open fit that is appropriate for my near normal hearing up to 2k.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtl View Post
    MDB, Interesting that you mention the Brio 2 Sound Recover program. Even with my severe HF loss my Costco specialist turned that feature off because she said too often it makes things worse. I believe that is the program that moves HF to lower frequency. I am now 3 months into my HA's and I find that I don't wear them as much as I did in the beginning. I am retired and home most of the time so I don't need them. I use wireless headphones to watch TV. I am going to try out the KS7's in a month or so. My Costo HIS is 100% the Brio 2's are the best for me because they switch programs automatically, actually I wouldn't mind having the ability to manually change programs. Wonder what brands/models Costco will release this fall?
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    Brio 2's are the best for me because they switch programs automatically,

    Oh my, you need to find an AuD with their out of their butt!

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