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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Jake View Post
    You can read and research as much as you want but it all comes down which one sounds better to you.
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    And yes, I want the HA that sounds better to me. That is an idea that is worth millions. All I need to know now is how to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddy View Post
    Every year many tons of rubber are worn off tires. That rubber ends up on and near our roads. You could make millions by gathering up that used rubber and selling it to recyclers. All you have to do is figure out how to collect it.

    And yes, I want the HA that sounds better to me. That is an idea that is worth millions. All I need to know now is how to do that.
    Problem is that your hearing perception gamut is subjective. Your hearing conditioning is subjective. Whether you like Jazz or Heavy Metal is subjective. Your loudness perception is subjective. Your tonal bias is subjective.

    The concept that brand X in somebody else's opinion is the best, is moot in your case. Hence trial periods.

    If you look at some of the most profligate wearer postings on here, you'll see that their own opinion of their hearing/hearing aids changes through the habituation process. So, look at all the points above in the context if it being a dynamic issue. Can you understand why 'recommendations' are going to be loose at best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Um bongo View Post
    Problem is that your hearing perception gamut is subjective. Your hearing conditioning is subjective. Whether you like Jazz or Heavy Metal is subjective. Your loudness perception is subjective. Your tonal bias is subjective.

    The concept that brand X in somebody else's opinion is the best, is moot in your case. Hence trial periods.
    Well, yes. Except that you'd need a trial period for every hearing aid on the planet, leading to one very pissed-off audiology clinic or a lot of somewhat disgruntled ones. By the time you got through them all there'd be a whole lot of new models to evaluate. Actually thinking about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by d'Wooluf View Post
    Well, yes. Except that you'd need a trial period for every hearing aid on the planet, leading to one very pissed-off audiology clinic or a lot of somewhat disgruntled ones. By the time you got through them all there'd be a whole lot of new models to evaluate. Actually thinking about it...
    Not really, you'd just take the balance of opinion vs. your actual budget and maybe try a couple/three if you weren't convinced by the efficacy of the first one.
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    Um bongo is one of the 3-4 excellent fitters that offer advice here. Costco has at least 3 excellent aids that should give satisfaction. Until you try an aid for 30 or so days, you can't determine anything. At about $800 more, are two very currant and well thought of brands that make good alternatives.

    You can't compare aids at this point! Electronic and cars were items you were already familiar with. Now you need to develop that with aids. Give it a chance to work. Don't join those here at obsess over this or that aid. Their post are right for their experience but we all need to develop our own experience.
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    Like somebody else already said earlier, with your hearing loss, Freddy, most aids should service you just fine. If I were you I would start trying out the most recent and popular aid that Costco has to offer (KS7) if budget is an important consideration for you. And if you're not happy with that one for some reason you can try something else from Costco next. If money is no object and you just want the most premium and latest aid on the market, then work with an audiologist channel to help you pick out one or go through an online channel if you want to save some money but still want the latest and greatest.

    HAs are not something that you can just learn all about them from their spec sheets and marketing brochures and be able to pick the "correct" one for you. You just make the best decision based on price and features to pick out with the first one, but your personal trial with it is a lot more important than the other factors. Testimonial reviews from others are just too subjective to rely on because two people with similar hearing loss can react very differently to the same hearing aid, so their opinion of the aid may not match yours at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Um bongo View Post
    Not really, you'd just take the balance of opinion vs. your actual budget and maybe try a couple/three if you weren't convinced by the efficacy of the first one.
    So how many aids does the average customer actually try? Is trialing two or three aids an accepted and useful process?

    I'm just beginning this venture, but from what I am hearing and from other experiences, I think finding the ideal aid by trialing will be very difficult. I am keen to hear your dissenting opinion, but I'm thinking the first one I try will sound weird, but after 30 days will sound pretty good, and after that the die has been cast and that first one will be the reference. Then all other aids will either sound about the same or worse.

    That's what I'm expecting. But I also know from experience that reality can be a big surprise and quite different from what one imagined. All will be revealed soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddy View Post
    So how many aids does the average customer actually try? Is trialing two or three aids an accepted and useful process?

    I'm just beginning this venture, but from what I am hearing and from other experiences, I think finding the ideal aid by trialing will be very difficult. I am keen to hear your dissenting opinion, but I'm thinking the first one I try will sound weird, but after 30 days will sound pretty good, and after that the die has been cast and that first one will be the reference. Then all other aids will either sound about the same or worse.

    That's what I'm expecting. But I also know from experience that reality can be a big surprise and quite different from what one imagined. All will be revealed soon.
    I think maybe the approach to find the "ideal" aid is not the best approach when it comes to HAs because it's already obvious to you that trialing is going to be a long and extensive process. I think a better approach is to find an aid that fits your budget and feature list, then try it out, and if it works for you (helps you hear better in all the desired hearing environments you're usually in), then you just stop there and don't wonder if there are better aids out there or not. If the aid doesn't work for you in certain critical listening environment that you consider important to you, then you build from that experience to pick out the next aid and give that a try.

    The bottom line is that if you find an aid that works for you, why bother looking further for the "ideal" aid?
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    I heartily agree with this approach. Although hearing professionals accept that some people want to try a bunch of hearing aids, I don't think they particularly like it. They are doing the best to get a hearing aid to work for you and to know that you're going to want to go through the whole process a few more times can be annoying/discouraging. I also think it's a good idea to figure out what problems you are trying to solve. Many find this question annoying and answer that they want to hear better. But as Volusiano alludes, hear better in what situations. For me it was understanding my soft spoken daughter and speech in noisy situations. The first was solved admirably--the second is still a challenge, but doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    I think maybe the approach to find the "ideal" aid is not the best approach when it comes to HAs because it's already obvious to you that trialing is going to be a long and extensive process. I think a better approach is to find an aid that fits your budget and feature list, then try it out, and if it works for you (helps you hear better in all the desired hearing environments you're usually in), then you just stop there and don't wonder if there are better aids out there or not. If the aid doesn't work for you in certain critical listening environment that you consider important to you, then you build from that experience to pick out the next aid and give that a try.

    The bottom line is that if you find an aid that works for you, why bother looking further for the "ideal" aid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    I think maybe the approach to find the "ideal" aid is not the best approach when it comes to HAs because it's already obvious to you that trialing is going to be a long and extensive process. I think a better approach is to find an aid that fits your budget and feature list, then try it out, and if it works for you (helps you hear better in all the desired hearing environments you're usually in), then you just stop there and don't wonder if there are better aids out there or not. If the aid doesn't work for you in certain critical listening environment that you consider important to you, then you build from that experience to pick out the next aid and give that a try.

    The bottom line is that if you find an aid that works for you, why bother looking further for the "ideal" aid?
    Yes, I'm expecting it will go like you are describing.

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