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    Default Anybody self program Phonak Brio or Brio 2

    There's been considerable discussion on the forums about how similar the Brio and Brio2 are to Phonak's main line. Consensus seems to be that they are similar to the Q and V series, but I haven't seen anything from self programmers. I've got the Phonak Target software, but Brios don't show up. I assume they only show up when one uses detect hearing aids and a Brio is connected. If there are any self programmers of Brios out there, are the same software settings available for the Brios as the respective V and Q series? Why I ask is because for Costco KS7, although it is similar to Signia Primax, it does not have near the amount of software settings as the Signias do.
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    I have not. Maybe you have to connect them as Audeo Q90s or Audeo V90s?

    Also, you can use the Phonak Target update feature inside the Target fitting software to download updates to the current Target version of 5.1.1. But 5.1.1 doesn't show Brio's either.
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    Maybe. The way it works with KS7s in Rexton Connexx is that they only show up when one connects them and runs detect hearing aids.

    Quote Originally Posted by pvc View Post
    I have not. Maybe you have to connect them as Audeo Q90s or Audeo V90s?

    Also, you can use the Phonak Target update feature inside the Target fitting software to download updates to the current Target version of 5.1.1. But 5.1.1 doesn't show Brio's either.
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    firmware in the brios is locked to costco software which is why I'll never own them. What if you move 500 miles away from nearest Costco. My Hansaton aids are made by Unitron, but cannot be programmed with Unitron truefit only Hansaton scout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobm07921 View Post
    firmware in the brios is locked to costco software which is why I'll never own them. What if you move 500 miles away from nearest Costco. My Hansaton aids are made by Unitron, but cannot be programmed with Unitron truefit only Hansaton scout.
    I don't think so.

    Here's an excerpt from Self-Programming-Help...
    Don't try to self-program earlier model Kirkland Signature (KS5 and KS6) with normal Aventa fitting software because they are locked to the Costco-only version of Aventa fitting software. This does not apply beginning with KS7s which can be self-programmed with Connexx fitting software. This does not apply to Costco Phonak Brio/Brio2 which can be programmed with the normal version of Target fitting software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDB View Post
    Maybe. The way it works with KS7s in Rexton Connexx is that they only show up when one connects them and runs detect hearing aids.
    I'm curious... After using the detect feature of Connexx and your hearing aids are connected, how are they displayed?

    Do you see Kirkland Signature 7's connected on the Connexx fitting screens?

    Or do you see the equivalent Rexton model (I forgot what that model is)?
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    I see Kirklands. I forget the exact wording, but it's clear that it's a distinct Kirkland model 7 and not a Rexton model.

    Quote Originally Posted by pvc View Post
    I'm curious... After using the detect feature of Connexx and your hearing aids are connected, how are they displayed?

    Do you see Kirkland Signature 7's connected on the Connexx fitting screens?

    Or do you see the equivalent Rexton model (I forgot what that model is)?
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    15 15 20 30 30 55 75 90 NR ​KS7
    10 10 20 15 25 35 65 85 95 WRS 100/92@45/40

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    The Connexx Rexfit 8.3/Hearing-Instruments Tab does not show any Kirkland model Hearing Aids/HAs. Also, the Help/Programming-Adapters-and-Cables does not show any Kirkland model HAs. Yet, when you use the detect feature, the Kirkland model magically gets detected and selected as a Kirkland model. So it's a hidden HA model until you use the detect feature, or until you select a client that had the Kirkland model already selected.

    The Target 5.1/Instruments Tab also does not show any Kirkland model HAs. Furthermore, the Target 5.1 Help/Cable-Overview does not show any Kirkland model HAs.

    So I expect that Target will react in the same manner. That is, Brio/Brio 2 are hidden HA models until you use the detect feature.
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    Just for historical purposes here's a link to this actually working,,

    >>Costco Brio2's: Self-programmable or locked?<<
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    Back to your main question, I don't know about whether Target software fitting options for a Brio/Brio 2 may be limited to a subset of options of the original? I don't have a Brio to look at what fitting options are available?
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