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Thread: Will New Hearing Aids Be Better? Time for new ones?

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    Hello everyone Ė itís been several years since Iíve been on the forum. Itís been a challenging few years with several surgeries (non-hearing related) and finally a decision to retire.

    Iím now 70, but very active in several community and non-profit organizations. Iíve worn hearing aids for approx. 20 years, and for the past 4 Ĺ years worn the Phonak Boleros. Over the past two years Iíve noticed a significant drop in my hearing, specifically speech, although my word discrimination scores didnít indicate much change over 4 years. (signature shows 2012 and 2016 audiogram results). I am on antibiotic doxycycline, probably forever, and donít know if that is contributing to the hearing decline, as well as a blood pressure med. My original audiologist, whom I liked and trusted very much also retired, so I have a different audiologist. Late 2016 I went to the ENT doctor at the office with a follow-up with the audiologist. I explained my decline in hearing, and was told that no, my hearing was basically the same! (what?). So, of course I was frustrated. I decided to see another audiologist next week Ė one recommended by my original audiologist.

    Like most hearing impaired, I can get very frustrated Ė especially in some of the meetings I attend where I cannot understand anything that is being said. And, most people think that when I have them repeat something they think itís because they werenít loud enough Ė thatís not the case, it is really clarity of what is being said. Yes, there are those environments where ambient noise around me is an issue. The only thing I can hear clearly is the TV Ė thru the Phonak Compilot/TV link Ė thatís perfectly clear! I also have the little remote mic that Iíve tried to use in meetings, but thatís not helping much. BTW Ė I donít mind wearing the blue tooth Ďnecklaceí, so have BT in the aid is no big deal for me, nor a requirement.

    The Boleros are 4 Ĺ years old, and perhaps they are at end of life? Has technology improved over the past 4 years? Given my word discrimination scores, are there newer aids that perhaps would be better suited for me? I did a bit of research on the Signia Primax series, but nothing else yet. At what point is cochlear implants an option? Iíll meet with the new audiologist next week and go in with a positive attitude, and will do as much research as I can prior to my appointment. (I do tend to over analyze most things )
    Bill
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    SRT Ė l 65, r 59 Discrim: L 40% R 44%

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    Your signature link of your audiograms in jpg format is content protected.
    HA wearer since the 1990's > Rexton Insite+ CIC (2011-2016) > Oticon OPN RITE (2016)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    Your signature link of your audiograms in jpg format is content protected.
    Thank you - does it show now?
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    SRT Ė l 65, r 59 Discrim: L 40% R 44%

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    It shows now. Not much difference in your hearing. Newer aids might help. Hard to tell. Only way to know for sure is to try them.
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    Hearing aids make thinks louder and also compress sounds. They are not going to fix poor speech discrimination. It certainly can't hurt to start exploring cochlear implants. You might be at the point where you qualify.

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    Ow, I can SO empathize with your situation Bill C!! I totally relate to LOUD does not equal CLEAR. In fact SLOW is better, even at a softer volume. I wonder if your Boleros aren't just fritzed and need replacing? I ask cuz you got the GOOD news: your hearing has not changed that much! Miracle! I would also be concerned about the antibiotic and BP meds ... but so far, so good for you.

    Definitely explore new aids. The fact that you hear TV clearly indicates that streaming should be a top priority. The more you stream, the better you hear. Phone, TV, laptop, et al, should ideally stream to your new aids. I wish I could *stream* all human voice to my aids! I find that with my Oticon OPn aids, there is still WAY too much competition between ambient noise and human speech. So much so, that I swear, the person is mouthing words of which NOT A ONE I can hear above the ambient noise in some instances.

    Let us know the route you go, cuz it could benefit many others in a similar situation.
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    Thank you for taking the time to reply. Yes, I'll follow-up with journey/experiences. Only over the past several months has it really bothered me that I can't hear and understand what's being said. I'm on the board of directors of an organization, and quite often I have to have someone explain to me what the discussion is about. I've attended several community presentations for projects going on in town, and I might as well have stayed home as I didn't understand anything! For the first time since I've started wearing hearing aids have I felt self conscious about my hearing loss, and that bothers me as I'm not a vain person, and yes I'm 70 years old but feel young at heart and still quite active and I don't want hearing loss to stop me from being as active as I am.


    Quote Originally Posted by 1Bluejay View Post
    Ow, I can SO empathize with your situation Bill C!! I totally relate to LOUD does not equal CLEAR. In fact SLOW is better, even at a softer volume. I wonder if your Boleros aren't just fritzed and need replacing? I ask cuz you got the GOOD news: your hearing has not changed that much! Miracle! I would also be concerned about the antibiotic and BP meds ... but so far, so good for you.

    Definitely explore new aids. The fact that you hear TV clearly indicates that streaming should be a top priority. The more you stream, the better you hear. Phone, TV, laptop, et al, should ideally stream to your new aids. I wish I could *stream* all human voice to my aids! I find that with my Oticon OPn aids, there is still WAY too much competition between ambient noise and human speech. So much so, that I swear, the person is mouthing words of which NOT A ONE I can hear above the ambient noise in some instances.

    Let us know the route you go, cuz it could benefit many others in a similar situation.
    2012.. 250 500 2000 3000 4000 6000 8000
    L....... 50 40 85 100 95 100 90
    R...... 30 40 85 90 85 85 90
    SRT Ė l 65, r 55 Discrim: L 36% R 48%

    2016.. 250 500 2000 3000 4000 6000 8000
    L....... 40 60 100 95 90 95 90
    R...... 35 50 85 95 85 95 90
    SRT Ė l 65, r 59 Discrim: L 40% R 44%

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    Have you had your HA's adjusted since the latest audiogram? The fact that you have had a 20 and 10 dB drop at 500 and 15dB drop in your left ear at 2000 Hz could be factor in why you are having the problems you are now having. If you google "speech banana" you will see what you could hear in 2012 and what you now can't hear in 2016, particularly around 500 Hz. If you haven't had the Beleros adjusted, have them adjusted and see if it helps.
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    Another possibility is that the Boleros are not performing as they did originally anymore for some reason. Have you had it serviced for cleaning regularly to make sure there's no wax build up? Maybe do a REM test to see if it delivers the amplification that it should for your loss.
    HA wearer since the 1990's > Rexton Insite+ CIC (2011-2016) > Oticon OPN RITE (2016)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seb View Post
    Have you had your HA's adjusted since the latest audiogram? The fact that you have had a 20 and 10 dB drop at 500 and 15dB drop in your left ear at 2000 Hz could be factor in why you are having the problems you are now having. If you google "speech banana" you will see what you could hear in 2012 and what you now can't hear in 2016, particularly around 500 Hz. If you haven't had the Beleros adjusted, have them adjusted and see if it helps.
    Thanks for the comment - yes, they were 'tweaked' the same day I had the audiogram done, however, I didn't notice a change in hearing. I have the tubes changes a couple of times per year. The audiologist has a twice per week free clinic where they will clean and make minor adjustments. I think before I invest in new aids, I'll have them cleaned and checked out thoroughly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volusiano View Post
    Another possibility is that the Boleros are not performing as they did originally anymore for some reason. Have you had it serviced for cleaning regularly to make sure there's no wax build up? Maybe do a REM test to see if it delivers the amplification that it should for your loss.
    Thanks ... you and others have convinced me to have them checked out ... I'll be making an appointment with my current audiologist before making any decision on new aids.
    2012.. 250 500 2000 3000 4000 6000 8000
    L....... 50 40 85 100 95 100 90
    R...... 30 40 85 90 85 85 90
    SRT Ė l 65, r 55 Discrim: L 36% R 48%

    2016.. 250 500 2000 3000 4000 6000 8000
    L....... 40 60 100 95 90 95 90
    R...... 35 50 85 95 85 95 90
    SRT Ė l 65, r 59 Discrim: L 40% R 44%

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